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Comment by john hopkins on October 30, 2009 at 2:30am

We cant wait Lucy, in these days we need to know that there is a supernatural power in control of us.

Comment by Lucy Luusah-Mutuku on October 28, 2009 at 11:26am

I will share with you my faith in supernatural healing later on.

Comment by john hopkins on October 21, 2009 at 2:57am

I am obsessed with death, I am excited, not because it is imminent in my life, but it is the only sure thing I know, and a stage of life each man will most decidedly reach one day, and as much as we try and evade the thought so we cannot evade that date which is recorded for us to depart from our body. Are you prepared for that day when the doctor looks at you with tears in his eyes and says, “You have cancer,” or on that day when you feel this terrible pain in the chest?

Where do you think you go on that day, as you step out into the complete unknown? There is so much for us to think about in this life, yet there is one thing we do not want to contemplate, why? The simple answer is we are not ready. I was diagnosed with cancer of both the prostate and bladder and I certainly was not ready until I read a book titled, “The Spiritual Man” by Watchman Nee in helping me to cope with cancer tells me in a chapter titled, “God as the life of the body.” He writes that the Spiritual Man holds not his life in his own hand but looks for the Father’s care. “What peace this is.”

During this period the believer glorifies God in every respect. He takes whatever may happen as an opportunity to manifest God’s glory. He does not use his own ways and thus interfere with the glory which is due to God. But when the Lord stretches out His arm to deliver, then is he ready to praise.

The aim of the child is no longer the blessing from the Father. God Himself is far more precious than all His gifts. If healing would not express God then He would not want to be healed. Should we merely covet the Father’s protection and supply, should we cry out only for deliverance from temptation we already have fallen. God as our life is not a business proposition. Those who genuinely know Him do not beg for healing but always seek the Father. If health might lead him astray and take away from God’s glory, he would rather not be healed.

Watchman Nee reminds us: Believers should remember that whenever our motive is to covet God’s gifts rather than God Himself, we already are beginning to falter. He states further: Should a Christian live perfectly for the Lord he will not be anxious to seek help, blessing or supply. He will instead commit himself unconditionally to God.

In “Overcoming Death,” he writes: Its God’s aim to bring His children through the experience of overcoming death now. To triumph over sin, self the world, and Satan is the last enemy. 1Co 15:26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.
necessary; but victory is not complete without a corresponding triumph over death.

Death is in my body, but the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death. (Romans 8:2) and now I wait upon the Lord and I will see Him work towards the swallowing up of it by His life, and the pain that the body experiences I do not experience for I am alive, within the Spirit of Jesus Christ, and I eagerly await the putting off of the body.

I have every right to be excited because confirmation of this writing came which tells me to be completely focused on God, just as Jesus was. If I am then I can rely on being raptured. If so, will it be a mere coincidence? I do not think so, I believe God is using my life to demonstrate to others his love, mercy, and grace, for I deserve zero.

We must also be mindful of the fact that Jesus did not come into the world to be God but to be the son of man and died as man on his cross at Calvary in order to sacrifice his life for all of mankind, and those who wish to follow the example he set must pick up their cross and follow him, as I have tried to do in my life, and as I now face death. Is this madness on my part? On the 4th of October 2009 I received the under mentioned email from eManna, which confirms what I have written, that indeed I will be raptured, and when it does happen it will be no coincidence, or they it only happens to some type of prophet or saint, which I am not. It means that just as Jesus was the first of many, so God has the same plan for all of mankind, the only difference between us is that Jesus was made perfect and died for all of the sins of mankind, and became a template for us to surrender our lives to God as he did, and my rapture will be so that the world at large can understand that salvation is not about death but about living a life with Christ inside of us, and it is this spirit which returns to the Father leaving the human shell or tent behind.

Those who remain in their bodies at death remain trapped in this world. Paul in 2 Cor 5:1 tells us that they become spirits, or as we say, ghosts.
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I was chosen for this life and given a purpose and on surrendering I was called by God to fulfill that purpose which was to write what I have written and in the process to die to sin, self and to become a servant to others.

This took a good 60 years and everything was given to me by God; the revelation to write, the skill to write, the humility. Even the love and compassion was given through the filling of His Holy Spirit. This is the grace, the anointing, given to do the will of the Father. This same anointing was given to Jesus as Watchman Nee wrote in the reading below titled, "Going to Jerusalem to Fulfill God's Purpose "

Yes, we are born to be and to live like Jesus who lived for God and died for the world, and as such we have to live similar lives.

PART 1

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Mark 10:1 And He rose up from there and came into the borders of Judea and beyond the Jordan. 32 Now they were on the road, going up to Jerusalem, and Jesus led the way before them. And they were amazed, and those who followed were afraid. And He took the twelve aside again and began to tell them the things that were about to happen to Him:

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We need to ask ourselves why, after He had been ministering in Galilee for about three years, the Slave Savior suddenly rose up and went to the south, to the district of Judea and beyond the Jordan. He did this because the time of His death was approaching. He had to die in the year prophesied by Daniel. Furthermore, according to the type of the Passover Lamb, He had to die on the Passover, that is, on the fourteenth day of
the first month of the Jewish calendar. Therefore, it is a very significant matter that, according to 10:1, the Lord left Galilee and went to Judea.

The Slave-Savior had been ministering in His gospel service for over three years in the despised region of Galilee, far from the holy temple and the holy city, the place where He had to die for the accomplishment of God's eternal plan. As the Lamb of God (John 1:29), it was necessary for Him to be offered to God at Mount Moriah, where Abraham offered Isaac and enjoyed God's provision of a ram as a substitute for his son (Gen. 22:2, 9-14) and where the temple was built in Jerusalem (2 Chron. 3:1). It must be there that He would be delivered, according to the counsel determined by the Trinity of the Godhead (Acts 2:23), to the Jewish leaders (Mark 9:31; 10:33), and there be rejected by them as the builders of God's building (8:31; Acts 4:11).

It should also be there that He would be crucified according to the Roman style of capital punishment (John 18:31-32) to fulfill the type concerning the kind of death He would die
(John 3:14). Moreover, that very year was the year that Messiah (Christ) would be cut off (killed) according to Daniel's prophecy (Dan. 9:24-26). Furthermore, as the Passover
Lamb (1 Cor. 5:7) He had to be killed in the month of the Passover (Exo. 12:1-11). Hence, He had to go to Jerusalem before the Passover (John 12:1; Mark 14:1), so that He might die there on the day of the Passover (14:12-17; John 18:28) at both the place and the time foreordained by God.

Going to Jerusalem to Fulfill God's Purpose PART 2

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Mark 10: 32 Now they were on the road, going up to Jerusalem, and Jesus led the way before them. And they were amazed, and those who followed were afraid. And He took the twelve aside again and began to tell them the things that were about to happen to Him: 33 Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and to the scribes. And they will condemn Him to death and deliver
Him to the Gentiles, 34 And they will mock Him and spit at Him and scourge Him, and they will kill Him. And after three days He will rise.

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Why was the Lord Jesus so bold in going up to Jerusalem? Concerning this, Luke 9:51 says, "And it came about, when the days were being fulfilled for His being taken up, that He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem." The Lord's face was set like a flint, for He knew that the time of His death was very near. At this point, there was approximately one week remaining before He would be put to death. The Lord was not willing to be stopped, frustrated, or hindered in any way from going up to Jerusalem. If He were hindered, He would miss the day of the Passover, the day for Him to die as the Lamb of
God. This was the reason the Lord was so bold to walk in front of all the disciples on the way to Jerusalem.

Because the time for the Slave-Savior's death had come, He was willing to go to Jerusalem. He went before His followers with a speed and boldness that amazed them. This was His obedience to God unto death (Phil. 2:8), according to the counsel of God
(Acts 2:23), for the fulfillment of His redemptive plan (Isa.53:10).

The Lord Jesus knew that through His death He would be glorified in resurrection (Luke 24:25-26) and that His divine life would be released to produce many brothers for His
expression (John 12:23-24; Rom. 8:29). For the joy set before Him, He despised the shame (Heb. 12:2) and volunteered to be delivered to the Satan-usurped leaders of the Jews and condemned by them to death. Therefore, God exalted Him to the
heavens, seated Him at His right hand (Mark 16:19; Acts 2:33- 35), gave Him the name which is above every name (Phil 2:9-10), made Him both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36), and crowned Him with glory and honor (Heb. 2:9).


The big question is, where do we go, what happens to us on that day? There are two places the bible tells us, in the book of 2 Ezra 75 it states:

I answered and said, "If I have found favor in your sight, O Lord, show this also to your servant: whether after death, as soon as everyone of us yields up the soul, we shall be kept in rest until those times come when you will renew the creation, or whether we shall be tormented at once?"

In (76) He answered me and said, "I will show you that also, but do not include yourself with those who have shown scorn, or number yourself among those who are tormented. (77) For you have a treasure of works stored up with the Most High, but it will not be shown to you until the last times. (78) Now concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone out from the Most High that a person shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High. (79) If it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, who have despised his law and hated those who fear God- (80) such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, always grieving and sad, in seven ways. (81) The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High. (82) The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance so that they may live. (83) The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High. (84) The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days. (85) The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet. (86 The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will cross over into torments. (87) The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High in whose presence they sinned while they were alive, and in whose presence they are to be judged in the last times.

(88) "Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body. (89) During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour so that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly. (90) Therefore this is the teaching concerning them: (91) First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders. (92) The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought that was formed with them, so that it might not lead them astray from life into death. (93) The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the ungodly wander and the punishment that awaits them. (94) The third order, they see the witness that he who formed them bears concerning them, that throughout their life they kept the law with which they were entrusted. (95) The fourth order, they understand the rest that they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory waiting for them in the last days. (96) The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible and shall inherit what is to come; and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty that they are to receive and enjoy in immortality. (97) The sixth order, when it is shown them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on. (98) The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they press forward to see the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified. (99) This is the order of the souls of the righteous, as henceforth is announced; and the previously mentioned are the ways of torment that those who would not give heed shall suffer hereafter."

(100) Then I answered and said, "Will time therefore be given to the souls, after they have been separated from the bodies, to see what you have described to me?"
(101) He said to me, "They shall have freedom for seven days, so that during these seven days they may see the things of which you have been told, and afterwards they shall be gathered in their habitations."

2 Esdras 8 tells us only a few will be saved.

[1] He answered me and said, "The Most High made this world for the sake of many, but the world to come for the sake of few.
[2] But I tell you a parable, Ezra. Just as, when you ask the earth, it will tell you that it provides very much clay from which earthenware is made, but only a little dust from which gold comes; so is the course of the present world.
[3] Many have been created, but few shall be saved."
[4] I answered and said, "Then drink your fill of understanding, O my soul, and drink wisdom, O my heart!
[5] For not of your own will did you come into the world, and against your will you depart, for you have been given only a short time to live.

And so I write here on this website that you might make the right choice, and have no fear of crossing over into the new life, and I am excited for already I know that in my life death has been abolished and I have no fear of cancer or my emphysema and through the Holy Spirit the rapture will come for as Paul writes in 1 Co 15:57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory (over death) through our Lord Jesus Christ. What God is making possible for me in my life He is doing for the millennium. So what I am experiencing now, which is without any medical assistance, and considered by the medical fraternity as absolute madness, I am going through a pain free experience without showing any signs of lower urinary tract obstruction – where I also have a normal stream, and the feeling of complete bladder emptying. So contrary to medical opinion I put my trust in God and it has paid off, and now I expect this to continue and to wait for God who has a predetermined date to come and fetch me and take me home. I will not die, though I will depart from my body, and I will be given my spiritual body as Paul describes in 2 Co 5:1. For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Yes, I am excited, for I know that I will thrust through the boundaries of hades, and this is for His body’s sake, that they might know that the rapture does exist, but first we must repent, be born again and then not only die to sin but also to die to self. Unless we conquer the flesh we cannot enter into this victory over death. Yes, we will not see His face unless we have conquered and have victory over our enemy.

How excellent is God’s plan for us, how excellent is the future glory that awaits for us after the struggle of this life in which the flesh reigns. How great is God’s grace which, is given to us that we may fulfill His plan that He has for us in this life. How perfect is the salvation that has freed us from the law, and how loving is our Lord Jesus Christ who died so that we may have this salvation.

My excitement is that I shall se his face and I shall hear him say, “Welcome, you have returned home with honour.”

I want to encourage those who read this page, by saying, “Death is more important than life.” Our life here is a mere journey, the next life is for keeps. The only death we must allow is the death to sin and self.
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Comment by Marc Turgeon on January 5, 2009 at 1:07pm

Hello, I am new to this group. My joining came as a recommmendation in addressing some of my concerns, learning , getting/giving and sharing. I am a prostate survivor to date since DaVinci RP February 2007. I am blessed to be able to share this day with you. My PSA is 0 to date, my incontenence is 95% under control and my impotence is 100%. Along the way I have had great difficulty, like others no more/ no less, in the healing and adapting to the new sex life for myself as well as for my wife. We are 65 ish and all was working well before surgery. All treatments have not helped much, maybe 50% erections at most and certainly not suitable for IC. I most times reach a tamed form of climax but of course no longer have ejaculate. I have been successful with penils injections, but libido and timing is a deterrent. I have been bothered over the months mainly with the attention and emphasis on constant penile message and excersize supposedly required for the return of natural erections. I have refrained from masturbation except for some occasional feelings that perhaps this would be the day to get an erection if I did do it, but it was no help so then I back off. In foreplay we do this but on my own I lie low as masturbation is not allowed in my religious background and the negative feelings abound. I should do this daily "they" tell my in order to provide oxygen to the blood in the penis therefore stimulating nerve regeneration which is the name of the game to get the natural erections back. I have not seen any medical statements stating masturbation helps, I can see where it would help stimulate things but I need evidence that it does help to help me "justify" my negative feelings. Does anyone have any resources in the justification of using masturbation in my recovery process.

Intimacy is important as we all know and we have adapted to simply enjoying being next to each other and enjoy the peace and solitude. The mechanics of sex is good when all is working well and it is not the end of the world if it does not happen and my wife fully understands this. There is a tomorrow. I would like to be close to normal again, do what I have to do to help in that effort, but be willing to accept God's grace also.

Any sharing, experience, help or support would be appreciated. I sincerely did not mean to offend anyone in my graphic descriptions but some times there are not too many ways to say things to make a point.

Thank for listening,
Marc

Comment by Shawn Comrie on August 19, 2008 at 9:45am

I agree with Joel Nowak's comments on Eastern Faiths.
Their mind training techniques, philosophical and belief systems all tend to work towards mental and physical well being. One becomes grounded in the present moment, (which when you think of it, is all we really have) and the holistic approach of Eastern medicine "treats the forest, as well as the tree."
I do not fully agree with Sergio on the exclusion of science from religion, at least not for all religions.
For instance the systems underlying Buddhism are very science orientated and Islam says that "Science IS religion".
BTW I thought there was a large scientific study showing that prayer works however Kathy Meade sites one that refutes that. Are there any pointers to the former (prayer favourable), study?
Best wishes,
Shawn

Comment by Sergio on July 9, 2008 at 6:07pm

Putting faith and healing together is questionable to me. They are two different processes that ideally do not mix, like religion and science. I would believe psychology and healing would be more compatible. Our psychology actually strongly influences our health. "Healthy body, healthy mind". How do we create a healthy mind is really the question to be answered. We are really 99.9% stuck on bad patterns of thinking acquired from when we were little and taught by our parents, culture and religion. It seems we have to undo all of this learning and strike out on our own to acquire our own truth. It is scary but refreshing and worthwhile. It might start you on the road of recovery. Your biology through psychology.
Peace,
Sergio

Comment by Tony Crispino on July 6, 2008 at 2:41pm

I was in church and this morning we had a man of the cloth here from Haiti telling us about how things are so bad there that people so set in their control over the city he is in will stand outside the church and shoot anyone attempting to attend mass. I do not know what they fear in a church goer that they have to kill them because of their Faith in God. This city in Haiti has a mortality rate of nearly 50% in their children before the age of 5. The remaining survivors will become those thugs, or be persicuted for their Faith.

This sad story actually makes me feel lucky for two reasons. One, when I feel depression because of HT, I know it's just because of the HT. I don't have the plight of these people. And two, because I live here in the US. Our final Hymn today was "America the Beautiful". Glad I can sing that one around here ~ while attending mass. God Bless you all.

Tony

Comment by Jack on June 1, 2008 at 4:40pm

Looking forward to following this discussion.

Comment by Joel Nowak on May 30, 2008 at 11:23am

I have come to the conclusion that as the Eastern Faiths teach, it is important to stay in the "here and now." At my current age of 56 and being a three cancer survivor (including a recurrence) I have learned not to turn back and waste my energy on the questions like "why me."

From the emotional side, the answer to this type of question just isn't important, it would only be an unnecessary distraction that would only eat at me, sap my energy and upset my family. So, it just doesn't matter to me. I am who I am and I have three cancers, so what.

I would be willing to allow a interested scientist to look back and see there is something in my physical being that lends itself to developing cancer, this might help others to forestall cancer. This would be the only legitimate reason to "look back."

Today is important. Tomorrow is also important, but not as important because I really don't know if tomorrow will come. I can not help but feel that the tomorrows will be more limited then I had hoped for, but I am here today.

So today I feel happy. Today I walk my dog and hear the birds and look at the flowers (isn't spring wonderful). Today I smell the ozone after the thunder storm and feel the rain drops hitting my face. Today I get my shoes muddy and stub my toe. This is all I have, but I have it, I am very aware of it and I relish it.

Comment by Angela Jenkins on April 29, 2008 at 3:00pm

Jim - welcome to the group! This is a great network to share our experiences with others.

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